shén me yàng de méi jiè de zuò pǐn wǒ dōu huì shōu cáng

什么样的媒介的作品我都会收藏

My collection covers a variety of media

dàn qián tí shì wǒ rèn wèi hǎo wán

但前提是我认为好玩

As long as I think it’s interesting

yǒu duō jiàn ba

有150多件吧

There’re over 150 in total

fàng zài jiā fàng zài wǒ tài tài gōng sī lǐ

放在家、放在我太太公司里

They’re arranged in my home and my wife’s company

shén zhì huà láng mǎi de zuò pǐn tài dà zhǐ néng fàng zài tā men de cāng kù lǐ

甚至画廊买的作品太大，只能放在他们的仓库里

There’re even big ones that can only be stored in the gallery’s warehouse

wǒ zǒng jué dé wǒ quē le yī miàn dà qiáng

我总觉得我缺了一面大墙

I always feel I should have a large wall

wǒ jiào shī yǒng

我叫施勇

My name is Shi Yong

cóng shì yì shù dà gài yǐ jīng yǒu nián le ba

从事艺术大概已经有30年了吧

I’ve been engaging in art for around 30 years

zhù zài kào jìn sū zhōu hé duì miàn jiù shì chuàng yì yuán

住在靠近苏州河，对面就是m50创意园

I live next to the Suzhou River at the opposite of M50 creative park

dōu shì bái qiáng shén zhì dì dōu shì bái de

150㎡，都是白墙，甚至地都是白的

The house covers an area of 150m2, and all the walls and the floors, are white

guà yī xiē zuò pǐn dà dà xiǎo xiǎo yǒu diǎn jié zòu

挂一些作品，大大小小有点节奏

I arrange the works on walls with a certain rhythm

yī gè shōu cáng zhǔ yào shì yuán yú zhōu biān de yì shù jiā péng yǒu men

一个收藏主要是源于周边的艺术家朋友们

The majority of my collection are from my artist friends

wǒ men yī qǐ gòng tóng chéng zhǎng de

我们一起共同成长的

We grow up together

dīng yǐ xú zhèn zhāng ēn lì shēn fán

丁乙、徐震、张恩利、申凡

Ding Yi, Xu Zhen, Zhang Enli, Shen Fan

ná yī jiàn zuò pǐn hù huàn

拿一件作品互换

We swap work with each other

huò zhě shēng rì le sòng yī jiàn zuò pǐn tài róng yì le

或者生日了送一件作品，太容易了

Or give a work as birthday gift. It’s so easy

hái yǒu yī bù fēn de shōu cáng shì yǐ qián dú xī fāng yì shù shǐ

还有一部分的收藏是以前读西方艺术史

A part of my collection are the works of the masters who had a great impact on me

duì wǒ yǐng xiǎng hěn dà de nà yī bō dà shī

对我影响很大的那一波master，大师

When I studied western art

xiǎng jǐn bàn fǎ ná dào yī zhāng hěn xiǎo de zuò pǐn

想尽办法拿到一张很小的作品

I tried everything to obtain a small piece

dì sān lèi jiù shì nián qīng de yì shù jiā

第三类就是年轻的艺术家

The third category consists of works by young artists

yīn wèi chū le dà míng de yì shù jiā wǒ yě mǎi bù qǐ

因为出了大名的艺术家，我也买不起

Because I can’t afford the works of the big names

qū fēng guó de zuò pǐn chōu xiàng yī diǎn

曲丰国的作品，抽像一点

The piece by Qu Guofeng is abstract

zhèng hǎo kě yǐ kòng zhì zhěng gè kè tīng qū yù de qì chǎng

正好可以控制整个客厅区域的气场

It can control the atmosphere of the whole living room

rì běn jù tǐ pài de dì èr dài de dài biǎo rén wù sōng gǔ wǔ pàn

日本具体派的第二代的代表人物，松谷武判

Takesada Matsutani, the representative artist among the second-generation members of Japanese Gutai group

hú zi de liǎng jiàn zuò pǐn

胡子的两件作品

Two works by Hu Zi

zǎo qī de dì yī jiàn yóu huà jiào

早期的第一件油画，叫edie

Her first oil painting named Edie

rán hòu shì tā huà de

然后是她画的david bowie

And her portrait of David Bowies

qí tā de xiàng yǒu liào guó hé

其他的像有廖国核

Other artists include Liao Guohe

gāo hóng wěi de

高洪伟的

Gao Hongwei

zhào yáng de

赵洋的

Zhao Yang

chǐ cùn hěn xiǎo de

尺寸很小的

Works in a small size

dōu shì yīn wèi wǒ xǐ huān tóng shí yǒu néng lì shōu cáng

都是因为我喜欢，同时有能力收藏

I like them and I can afford them

zhè gè qū jī běn shàng dōu shì míng zì dà yī diǎn de

这个区基本上都是名字大一点的

Works in this part are created by renowned artists

zhè dōu shì sòng wǒ de

这都是送我的

All of them are given to me

měi guó de liù shí nián dài de jí jiǎn yǔ gài niàn yì shù jiā

美国的六十年代的极简与概念艺术家

This one is by the minimalism and conceptual American artist in the 1960s

de

sol lewitt的

Sol LeWitt

niǔ yuē qù ná guò lái de dàn shì wǒ méi yǒu wài huì

纽约去拿过来的，但是我没有外汇

I went to New York for it, only to find out I had no foreign currency

jié guǒ láo lún sī xiāng gé nà huà láng lǎo bǎn jiù gěi wǒ huì guò qù le

结果劳伦斯（香格纳画廊老板）就给我汇过去了

Lorenz sent the money to me and refused my repayment

bù ràng wǒ hái qián sòng gěi nǐ

不让我还钱，送给你

He gave it to me

wa tiān nà

哇天呐

I was like ‘oh my god’

chī fàn de nà yī biān wǒ jiù fàng le rì běn wù pài de jiān mù zhì xióng

吃饭的那一边，我就放了日本物派的菅木志雄

In the dining room, I arrange a work by Kishio Suga, the representative figure of Japanese Mono-ha

bā shí nián dài yī gè zōng hé cái liào de zuò pǐn

八十年代一个综合材料的作品

A mixed-material work in the 1980s

hóng yán sè de chén yīng zhè gè shì zuì xiǎo de

红颜色的陈英，这个是最小的

The red piece by Chen Ying is the smallest one

wǒ mǎi de zuì dà de mǐ gāo mǐ zhǎng de

（我买的）最大的1.6米高，3.6米长的

Another one I bought is as high as 1.6m and as long as 3.6m

fàng zài méi dǐng huà láng le wǒ shí zài ná bù huí lái

放在没顶画廊了，我实在拿不回来

I place it in Madein Gallery because I really have no space for it

chú fáng nà biān yǒu yī gè shì hěn yǒu yì sī jiù shì yǒu yī jiàn wáng xīng wěi de zuò pǐn

厨房那边有一个是很有意思，就是有一件王兴伟的作品

An interesting piece in the kitchen is a work by Wang Xingwei

dǎ pái tā shū gěi wǒ le wǒ jiù bǎ nà jiàn zuò pǐn ná huí lái

打牌他输给我了，我就把那件作品拿回来

He lost to me when we played cards, so I took back that piece

yòng jiǎn tiē de fāng shì yǒu diǎn xiàng yǐ qián xiě nì míng xìn

用剪贴的方式，有点像以前写匿名信

It’s a collage like an anonymous letter

guò dào lǐ lǜ sè de nà gè zhǐ shàng zuò pǐn yě shì jiān mù zhì xióng de

过道里绿色的那个纸上作品也是菅木志雄的

The green one in the passage is also by Kishio Suga

tè bié xǐ huān wěi tuō yī gè péng yǒu cóng pāi mài chǎng lǐ pāi huí lái

特别喜欢，委托一个朋友从拍卖场里拍回来

I really liked it and asked one friend to buy it for me in the auction

dào zài cǎo dì shàng chuān zhù qún zi de nà gè nǚ hái

倒在草地上，穿著裙子的那个女孩

The girl who lay down on the grass in dress

shì rì běn de nà gè qíng sè dà shī huāng mù jīng wéi de

是日本的那个情色大师，荒木经惟的

That is a picture by Nobuyoshi Araki, the Japanese master of erotic imagery

wǒ yě mǎi le tā jǐ jiàn qí tā de zuò pǐn dāng rán bù tài hǎo guà

我也买了他几件其他的作品，当然不太好挂

I also bought several of his other pictures which are not suitable for hanging here

wò shì lǐ yǒu yī gè dīng yǐ zǎo qī de zuò pǐn

卧室里有一个丁乙早期的作品

I have an early work of Ding Yi in my bedroom

tā shì cóng zǎo qī yòng chǐ huà de rán hòu yòu zhuǎn xiàng yòng shǒu huì

他是从早期用尺画的，然后又转向用手绘

He painted with a ruler in the early times and later he turned to hand-painting

zhuǎn zhé qī hěn zhòng yào de yī jiàn zuò pǐn

转折期很重要的一件作品

It’s an important work in his transition period

yáng fú dōng gěi wǒ de yī gè shè yǐng fàng zài wǒ de chuáng biān tǐng hǎo

杨福东给我的一个摄影，放在我的床边挺好

A photo by Yang Fudong is arranged beside my bed

hái yǒu yī zǔ niǎo tóu de shè yǐng

还有一组鸟头的摄影

And a group of pictures by Birdhead

yǒu yī zhāng pāi shì wǒ men lǎo bǎn de bǐ jiào nián qīng de shí hòu

有一张（拍）是我们老板的，比较年轻的时候

One of them shows our boss in his young age

xiǎo péng yǒu hé ā yí zhù de dì fāng wǒ yě guà le yī zhāng ōu yáng chūn de yóu huà

小朋友和阿姨住的地方，我也挂了一张欧阳春的油画

I also hang an oil painting by Ouyang Chun in the room where my child and the nanny live

liǎng gè xiǎo jiā huǒ zài hù xiāng duì zhì wǒ jué dé tǐng pèi

两个小家伙在互相对峙，我觉得挺配

The two little guys are fighting with each other

wǒ tài tài wò shì lǐ jiù shì shēn fán de hé chí qún de zuò pǐn

我太太卧室里，就是申凡的和迟群（的作品）

In my wife’s bedroom, there’re works by Shen Fan and Chi Qun

jiǔ shí nián dài mò wǒ hái cóng yǒu yī wèi yì shù jiā nà lǐ

九十年代末，我还从有一位艺术家那里

In the late 1990s, I visited an artist

tè bié zǒu dào tā jiā lǐ bǎ xiàn jīn fàng dào tā zhuō zi shàng

特别走到他家里，把现金放到他桌子上

I went to his home and put the cash on his desk

wǒ shuō wǒ hěn xǐ huān de huà gěi wǒ mǎi xià

我说我很喜欢的画，给我买下

Saying ‘I like your painting very much. I want to buy it’

yòng le yī gè duō yuè de gōng zī chà bù duō kuài rén mín bì

用了一个多月的工资，差不多4500块人民币

I spent around 4,500 RMB, over a month’s salary

dàn zhēn zhèng yǒu yì shí dì shōu cáng yīng gāi shì zài nián

但真正有意识地收藏应该是在2013年

But I really started collecting consciously in 2013

shuāng fēi xiǎo zǔ wǒ yǐ qián hé xú zhèn yī qǐ dài guò tā men bì yè chuàng zuò

双飞小组，我以前和徐震一起带过他们毕业创作

The Shuangfei Group, I instructed them in their graduation portfolio with Xu Zhen

yáng jùn lǐng hé lín kē dào shàng hǎi lái

杨俊岭和林科到上海来

Yang Junling and Lin Ke went to Shanghai

gāo tiě shàng nà gè tǔ ké de zhǐ dài quán bù shōu jí qǐ lái

高铁上那个吐壳的纸袋，全部收集起来

They collected some garbage paper bags on the high-speed train

zhǔn bèi yī biān huà yī biān zài wēi xìn shàng pāi mài

准备一边画，一边在微信上拍卖

They painted on them and started an auction on WeChat

wǒ jué dé tè bié yǒu jì niàn yì yì quán bù mǎi xià lái

我觉得特别有纪念意义，全部买下来

I thought they were really meaningful, and I bought them all

zhè gè kāi shǐ wǒ tū rán jué dé wǒ shàng yǐn le

这个开始，我突然觉得我上瘾了

Since then, I suddenly realized that I began to have an addiction

wǒ bì jìng ná gōng zī de bù shì yī gè yǒu hěn duō qián de cáng jiā

我毕竟拿工资的，不是一个有很多钱的藏家

After all I’m not rich. I earn salary.

rú guǒ wǒ de zuò pǐn yǒu xiāo shòu le wǒ kě néng jiù zuò bù zhù le

如果我的作品有销售了，我可能就坐不住了

If the work I like is being sold, I will get excited

jiù yào qù kàn kàn yǒu méi yǒu zuò pǐn kě yǐ mǎi

就要去看看有没有作品可以买

I will see if I can buy it

mǎi le zhī hòu jīng jì shàng huā hǎo jiǔ cái néng huǎn guò lái

买了之后，（经济上）花好久才能缓过来

After purchase, it usually takes me a long time to bring myself again

dàn shì yǒu shí hòu wǒ jué dé

但是有时候我觉得

But sometimes

zhè dōu shì yì shù shǐ de yī bù fēn wǒ dé bǎ tā shōu cáng le

这都是艺术史的一部分，我得把它收藏了

I think it’s a part of the art history and I have to collect it

hěn duō nián qīng yì shù jiā wǒ bù shì yīn wèi tā men qióng wǒ qù mǎi yī jiàn zuò pǐn

很多年轻艺术家，我不是因为他们穷，我去买一件作品

As for young artists, I don’t buy their works because they’re poor

ài cái ma zuò pǐn hěn hǎo hěn yǒu yì sī

爱才嘛，作品很好，很有意思

I admire talented people and interesting works

rú guǒ wǒ yǒu jī huì wǒ jiù jiè shào nǐ yīng gāi mǎi tā de zuò pǐn

如果我有机会，我就介绍，你应该买他的作品

If I get a chance, I will introduce their works to people

dì yī cì wǒ kàn jiàn nǐ de zuò pǐn de shí hòu

第一次我看见你的作品的时候

The first time I saw your works

wǒ xiǎng qǐ yì dà lì de chāo qián wèi de yī gè yì shù jiā

我想起意大利的超前卫的一个艺术家，clemente

They reminded me of Clemente, a contemporary artist from Italy

nǐ men dāng zhōng yǒu yī zhǒng qì zhì hěn jiē jìn

你们当中有一种气质很接近

You were similar to each other in a way

hòu lái wǒ shì yī zhí xiǎng nǐ yīng gāi hé yǒu yī gè shén me hé zuò

后来我是一直想，你应该和clemente有一个什么合作

Then I always thought you should cooperate with him

duì hái shì nǐ yǐn jiàn de

对，还是你引荐的

Yeah, you introduced me to him

nǐ kāi zhǎn lǎn tā xiě le xù

你开展览，他写了序

He wrote a preface for your exhibition

hěn hǎo zhōng yú chéng wèi wàng nián jiāo le

很好，终于成为忘年交了

Nice. You finally become friends

hái jī yú nǐ de yī gè diàn huà

还基于你的一个电话

It thanked to your call

wǒ yì shí dào tā shì yī gè bǐ jiào shēn de cáng jiā

我意识到他是一个比较深的藏家

I realize that he is a senior collector

měi jiàn zuò pǐn dōu hěn tè bié

每件作品都很特别

Each piece of his collection is really special

nà zhǒng chú xíng mó hú qī dìng xíng qī zhī qián de zuò pǐn

那种雏形，模糊期、定型期之前的作品

The rudiments, the vague and unshaped works

rán hòu nǐ dōu shōu xià lái le

然后你都收下来了

You collect them all

dāng shí shì zhōu tiě hǎi shuō nǐ lái zuò zhè gè shōu cáng zhǎn

当时是周铁海说，你来做这个收藏展

Zhou Tiehai said ‘you should hold an exhibition of your collection’

mù de qí shí hěn jiǎn dān jiù shì shuō nǐ yào zhēn zhèng rú guǒ rè ài yì shù

目的其实很简单，就是说你要真正如果热爱艺术

My aim is simple

qí shí nǐ méi yǒu hěn duō qián nǐ yě kě yǐ shōu cáng yì shù de

其实你没有（很多）钱，你也可以收藏艺术的

If you really like art, you can collect even though you don’t have much money

zuò pǐn hěn duō suī rán xiǎo

作品很多，虽然小

I’ve collected so many works although they’re small in size

jiā lǐ fàng bù xià me wǒ kěn dìng dì yī gè xiǎng dào wǒ tài tài

（家里）放不下么，我肯定第一个想到我太太

My home is not big enough to contain them. So I think of my wife in the first place

wǒ bǎ tā men gōng sī dōu zhàn lǐng zhù

我把他们公司都占领著

I’ve occupied her company

jiǔ shí nián dài gǎo dāng dài yì shù de rén bù duō yīn wèi tài kǔ le

九十年代搞当代艺术的人不多，因为太苦了

There were a few people doing contemporary art in the 1990s because it was too hard

yě méi yǒu měi shù guǎn lái yāo qǐng nǐ men cān jiā zhǎn lǎn

也没有美术馆来邀请你们参加展览

And no gallery invited us for exhibitions

yǐ qián de gōng zuò shì jiù shì shuì jué de dì fāng

以前的工作室就是睡觉的地方

We used to sleep in the studio

shàng hǎi de yì shù jiā dào běi jīng qù dōu shì lǜ pí huǒ chē

上海的艺术家到北京去，都是绿皮火车

Shanghai artists went to Beijing by the old green trains

dàn shì méi wèn tí jiù shì hěn xīng fèn

但是没问题，就是很兴奋

But we were excited

wǒ men zài yī qǐ jiù shì tán yì shù

我们在一起就是谈艺术

We gathered together to discuss art

zhǐ yào xiāng gé nà huà láng yī yǒu huó dòng wǒ men dōu huì jù jí dào nà lǐ

只要香格纳画廊一有活动，我们都会聚集到那里

We gathered in the ShanghART Gallery as long as there were activities

chuàng zuò de huà yào yán zhù wǒ de xiàn suǒ wǒ de gài niàn

创作的话，要沿著我的线索、我的概念

When I’m creating, I have clues and conceptions to follow

bù duàn jì xù zhuī wèn de

不断继续追问的

I keep asking

chù yú yī zhǒng fēi cháng jǐn zhāng de zhuàng tài

处于一种非常紧张的状态

And I would be really nervous

dàn shōu cáng bù yī yàng

但收藏不一样

But collecting is different

nǐ kàn dào hěn duō sī lù hěn bù yī yàng de lìng wài yī gè shì jiè de dōng xī

你看到很多思路很不一样的，另外一个世界的东西

You see lots of different things from another world

zhè jiù xiàng lǚ xíng shēn xīn shàng de yī zhǒng diào hé

这就像旅行，身心上的一种调和

It’s like a tour to balance your body and mind

wǒ yǐ qián nián qīng de shí hòu dōu shì tōng xiāo dá dàn de

我以前年轻的时候都是通宵达旦的

I stayed up a lot when I was young

yī gè xīng qī sān tiān tōng xiāo tài zhèng cháng le

一个星期三天通宵太正常了

It was normal for me to stay up all night for 3 days a week

xiàn zài dào wǎn shàng liù diǎn zhī hòu jué bù gōng zuò dǎ sǐ wǒ yě bù gōng zuò

现在到晚上六点之后决不工作，打死我也不工作

Now I never work after 6:00pm. In no case.

tīng tīng yīn lè kàn kàn shū yǒu shí hòu hē hē jiǔ

听听音乐看看书，有时候喝喝酒

I listen to music, read and drink

měi yī gè shōu cáng jiù shì yī gè gù shì

每一个收藏就是一个故事

There’s a story behind each piece of work

ruò gàn nián hòu nǐ huí guò tóu zài lái kàn

若干年后你回过头再来看

When you look back several years later

wǒ hé yì shù jiā de gù shì

我和艺术家的故事

The stories of me and the artists

duì zhè gè zuò pǐn de gǎn shòu

对这个作品的感受

And my feeling about the works

yǐ qián de yī zhǒng huí yì zài lǐ miàn zhè dōu shì hěn yǒu jià zhí de

以前的一种回忆在里面，这都是很有价值的

I have memories about them and they’re really valuable